tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post107472304567312827..comments2023-01-04T02:09:40.565-05:00Comments on Albany Lawyer: Involuntary Commitment vs. Arrest: NY Mental Hygiene Law Article 9Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16942422727278141113noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-29309282249284579732013-02-13T23:29:15.426-05:002013-02-13T23:29:15.426-05:00Those are good questions for your lawyer. Those are good questions for your lawyer. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16942422727278141113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-81854864127731688782013-02-13T21:51:17.968-05:002013-02-13T21:51:17.968-05:00I was "arrested" and committed involunta...I was "arrested" and committed involuntarily for trying to buy an air ticket without a passport. The port authority police handcuffed me, failed to read me the Miranda warnings or charge me with any crime, and called an ambulance to deliver me and the PA officers to a mental hospital. The PA officers told me that handcuffing people who they are transporting to a mental hospital is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-25913357414656006302013-01-26T15:36:03.787-05:002013-01-26T15:36:03.787-05:00I have one other thing to say to the mental health...I have one other thing to say to the mental health professional, who may in fact be DELUDED about what ACT<br />UALLY GOES ON IN THE HOSPITAL. First of all, in my federal case just filed, let me state this:the hospital program director PARTICIPATED IN THE FALSIFICATION OF RECORDS IN DELIBERATE CRIMINALLY CHARGEABLE FASHION HIMSELF. So the false sense that reporting staff to a higher authority Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-44492060701226696602013-01-26T15:31:36.771-05:002013-01-26T15:31:36.771-05:00To the mental health professional:Yes, there are &...To the mental health professional:Yes, there are "bad people in every profession"...but may I affirm that yours is the very worst. Absolutely the very worst. The law is skirted EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY--on the state AND federal levels--there are no mental health professionals that KNOW THE LAW--ZERO--and this has created the intolerable situation we see. I have a case currently Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-35020230484155271562013-01-10T01:32:26.807-05:002013-01-10T01:32:26.807-05:00I was involuntarily incarcerated in a psych ward a...I was involuntarily incarcerated in a psych ward and the experience was very traumatizing for me. The staff didn't even read my rights and didn't need my mom's consent to have me locked up. I think people who have been involuntarily committed should the right of due process just like someone who has been arrested. Involuntary commitment violates your 5th amendment rights and there Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-14523910386999919242012-08-26T20:59:04.079-04:002012-08-26T20:59:04.079-04:00Thanks for your comment. I think you misunderstand...Thanks for your comment. I think you misunderstand the point of my blog post - or I was not clear.<br /><br />I recognize that mental health professionals have difficult decisions to make. My issue is not with them.<br /><br />My issue is with the law. A person suspected of being suicidal does not have the same rights under the law as someone suspected of having committed a homicide. Not even Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16942422727278141113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-58463014994508667662012-08-26T17:13:33.161-04:002012-08-26T17:13:33.161-04:00I am a mental health professional and I have sent ...I am a mental health professional and I have sent many people to the hospital for psychiatric evaluations. Just because we send someone to the hospital for an evaluation, that does not mean they will be admitted. the hospital staff makes that decision based on their evaluation. <br /><br />First, I am sorry for the treatment that has been described in this article and the comments. There are bad Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-34143267759564690832012-08-21T18:39:55.701-04:002012-08-21T18:39:55.701-04:00I was recently held against my will under "In...I was recently held against my will under "Involuntary Commitment" to a locked-down psychiatric wing of a hospital. A friend who was concerned for me, and misread a situation, called 911 and several officers arrived at my house. Knowing I was of a sane mind, and in no danger of hurting myself or anyone else I attempted to reason with the cops, who responded saying they need to take me Paulie Ceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01649639357996141441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-50175610553906700512012-08-21T18:23:54.320-04:002012-08-21T18:23:54.320-04:00I was recently held against my will under "In...I was recently held against my will under "Involuntary Commitment" to a locked-down psychiatric wing of a hospital. A friend who was concerned for me, and misread a situation, called 911 and several officers arrived at my house. Knowing I was of a sane mind, and in no danger of hurting myself or anyone else I attempted to reason with the cops, who responded saying they need to take me Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-22471567353287099182012-08-21T18:23:17.096-04:002012-08-21T18:23:17.096-04:00I was recently held against my will under "In...I was recently held against my will under "Involuntary Commitment" to a locked-down psychiatric wing of a hospital. A friend who was concerned for me, and misread a situation, called 911 and several officers arrived at my house. Knowing I was of a sane mind, and in no danger of hurting myself or anyone else I attempted to reason with the cops, who responded saying they need to take me Paulie Ceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01649639357996141441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-47152687587148339092012-08-21T14:05:33.702-04:002012-08-21T14:05:33.702-04:00THE INTERMINABLE SUPPRESSIONS OF NATIONAL DISGRAC...THE INTERMINABLE SUPPRESSIONS OF NATIONAL DISGRACE<br />As a former new york city police officer,veteran elite combat soldier (Vietnam), and alumnus of Jonn Jay College, I did wake up in a prison medical unit and could bearly breath. I had suffered ordeals : I had been unlawfully arrested for assault (while the very clearly vindicating medical records were suppressed),and I had been unlawfully Fredrick Alexander Joneshttp://www.liebestadt.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-39991342793477273802012-07-13T16:54:51.440-04:002012-07-13T16:54:51.440-04:00I was involuntary committed.
The apparent basis f...I was involuntary committed. <br />The apparent basis for this was a mild altercation I had with someone with whom I share residence. This person began to verbally abuse me thus provoking me to slight anger. At the time she was engaging in her verbal abuse she was standing within my bedroom doorway, in order to close the door so as to not be subjected to her verbal abuse, I slightly pushed her Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-16949901694081700462012-06-10T00:25:47.559-04:002012-06-10T00:25:47.559-04:00This case should be of some interest to you. This ...This case should be of some interest to you. This psychiatrist thought the patient was delusional. Court found the case troubling for many reasons. The discrepancy between the doctors account of the patient's condition and the patient's actual condition, are very entertaining <br /><br />PS I think this doc still works at Mid-Hudson Forensic Psych Hospital<br />The People of the State of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-25425587050006448132012-02-26T12:27:12.136-05:002012-02-26T12:27:12.136-05:00I can honestly relate to your friend, I currently ...I can honestly relate to your friend, I currently have a case in New York State, I to was admitted to a hospital under a DCS certification after my sister in law had made a malicious allegation from 10 miles from my home while I was celebrating my 21st birthday with family and friends. Later that evening I was greeted by the Dewitt Police t nearly 2 in the morning requesting I submit to a Mr.Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15314644186801396487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-11207636325681785302011-10-18T10:15:04.109-04:002011-10-18T10:15:04.109-04:00re getting a NY IOC order overturned - check with ...re getting a NY IOC order overturned - check with a NY lawyer who has knowledge of this particular area of law, but i have heard that in any case the IOC order is not enforceable outside of the state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-58775008802519645172011-08-03T13:57:32.675-04:002011-08-03T13:57:32.675-04:00hospitals get paid by insurance and or government ...hospitals get paid by insurance and or government for each patient they admit and for each day they stay. think they're going to make it easy to get out? doctors have a financial interest in keeping you they're as long as they can. careful what you say this could happen to anyone. of course they're are people who should be in the hospital but rights should be vigourisly proteced morebtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-60038789629986914592011-07-30T14:44:29.351-04:002011-07-30T14:44:29.351-04:00A few months ago I was seeking help for sleep issu...A few months ago I was seeking help for sleep issues over a six month period. <br /><br />These issues all started when I contracted lyme disease several years ago.<br /><br />During this time no one would asist me.<br /><br />So I wound up moving out of state I was in, to another.<br /><br />There I lived in hotels as I could not get a place to live right away.<br /><br />A friend was bringing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-52538515538299149372011-05-31T18:58:51.194-04:002011-05-31T18:58:51.194-04:00I have friend who did attempt suicide. 911 was ca...I have friend who did attempt suicide. 911 was called. He did not want to go, and resisted getting in the ambulance. He was put in 4 point restraints, resisting the whole time. He had taken a number of pills and a lot of alcohol, someone came home early and found him. He was very serious about ending his life.<br />Then begins the horror story. While being transported one arm came out of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-61122750523747575162011-05-26T00:11:32.343-04:002011-05-26T00:11:32.343-04:00While I agree with your comment about how the rela...While I agree with your comment about how the relationship can be protected, the rest of your comment about my getting only his side of the story is inaccurate.<br /><br />I discussed my friend's case directly with three different psychiatrists who were "treating" him at the hospital. I also read the message that my friend had written that triggered the initial commitment.<br /><br Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16942422727278141113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-8171320536799023552011-05-25T02:33:10.245-04:002011-05-25T02:33:10.245-04:00The only part I have a comment on is the damage do...The only part I have a comment on is the damage done to a therapeutic relationship with an involuntary hospitalization is initiated. It doesn't have to damage the relationship. If a psychologist or psychiatrist does a good job of explaining confidentiality and what it means to break confidentiality (and of course why they may break confidentiality), there is a good chance the patient will Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-22265905087860001152011-05-14T22:39:20.719-04:002011-05-14T22:39:20.719-04:00i was recently mha'ed.i talked to my pscyh.on ...i was recently mha'ed.i talked to my pscyh.on 3/29. i was fine i told her my weekend plans.we were in the process of ending our 6+ yrs. of tx.<br />i saw her briefly as she left work on 3/30, i was dropping off a plant and some plaque magnets for the staff.goodbye gifts.she said the office was still open,just go on upstairs and put them inside.my plan was to leave the box in the lower lobby Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12583005.post-90585892254683527572011-04-26T02:20:11.953-04:002011-04-26T02:20:11.953-04:00I have been thinking about the court system in men...I have been thinking about the court system in mental health , it was often called the "dog" that does not "bark", obviously the main difference between an arrest and mental health is that generally speaking unless you are really out of it folks don't treat you as guilty of a crime while when you get arrested everybody thinks you are guilty for the most part.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com