Saturday, May 13, 2006

New York DMV - Negative Units

A NY DMV friend and I were just talking about the "negative unit" system. Down below I've pasted 15 NYCRR 136.6, which contains the scoring of negative units for safety factors. I'm not sure it will line up right, but we'll see. The first number is the number of units during the period from 1-3 years after you get them. The second number is how many you have in the first year.

Apparently in some circumstances you can denied reinstatement or relicensing, if you have too many negative units (more than 25 pursuant to § 136.4(a)(3). In other words, you get revoked (say for a DWI, youth DWAI, or too many points/speeds). The revocation period ends and you apply for your license back. DMV doesn't send you back your license, because you have too many negative units. The one-year revocation you thought you had turns out to be longer than you thought.

The DMV website lists the point system, but not the negative unit system. Very interesting and I hope to learn more about this. Please post comments if you have any thoughts.


15 NYCRR 136.6

Section 136.6 Weighing of safety factors.

(a) There shall be assigned to each safety factor a negative unit as follows:

Safety factor Assigned negative units
over one year within one
to three year of
years of application
application
(1) for each reportable accident of record with a --5 --8
finding by the referee of gross negligence in
the operation of a motor vehicle in a manner
showing a reckless disregard for the life and
property of others
(2) for each reportable accident of record with --3 --4
conviction involvement or with a finding by the
referee of a violation of the Vehicle and
Traffic Law
(3) for the first and second speeding conviction --3 --4
of record [FNa1]
(4) for the third and subsequent speeding --5 --8
conviction [FNa1]
(5) for reckless driving --5 --8
(6) for each conviction of record for leaving the --8 --11
scene of a personal injury accident of record
(7) for each alcohol-related offense of record as
follows:
(i) conviction for violation of subdivision (1)
of section 1192 of the Vehicle and Traffic Law:
first offense --5 --8
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second offense --8 --11
third or subsequent offense --11 --14
(ii) conviction for violation of subdivision (2),
(3) or (4) of section 1192 of the Vehicle and
Traffic Law:
first offense --8 --11
second or subsequent offense --11 --14
(iii) chemical test refusal --6 --11
(8) for each conviction of homicide, criminally --11 --14
negligent homicide, or assault arising out of
the operation of a motor vehicle
(9) (i) for each incident of driving during a --10 --12
period of alcohol-related license suspension or
revocation
(ii) for each other incident of driving during a --8 --10
period of license suspension or revocation
(10) for each conviction or finding by the --3 --4
commissioner's referee of a violation of
section 392 of the Vehicle and Traffic Law
(11) for each other conviction of record for a --2 --3
moving violation
[FNa1] For each speeding violation of 25 miles per hour or more over the posted
speed limit, add one point.


(b) The point reduction program shall not apply to any of the negative units listed in subdivision (a) of this section.
(c) For the purpose of this Part, the time periods for the computation of safety factors shall commence as of the date on which the incident occurred.
(d) In any case where two or more safety factors which are not independent of each other arise out of a single incident, only one of these safety factors shall be taken into consideration in a review of the total record. The safety factor which shall be taken into consideration in these cases shall be the safety factor having the greater weight, except that where two safety factors are of equal weight, either one may be taken into consideration.
Examples: (1) Where an accident and a conviction for reckless driving arise out of the same incident, only the reckless driving conviction, which is the safety factor having the greater weight, is considered in a review of the total record, because these safety factors are not independent of each other.
(2) Where a first conviction of subdivision 2 of section 1192 of the Vehicle and Traffic Law and a finding of a chemical test refusal arise out of the same incident, only one of these two safety factors having equal weight is considered in a review of the total record because these safety factors are not independent of each other.
(3) Where a person is convicted of reckless driving and the incident occurred during a period of license revocation, both of these safety factors shall be taken into consideration in a review of the total record, because these safety factors are independent of each other.
(4) Where a person is convicted of speeding and failure to keep right, where both violations occurred at the same time, both of these safety factors shall be taken into consideration, because these safety factors are independent of each other.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

My name is Ryan and I have a total of 29 negative units under Part 136 counting procedures and three alchol- related incidents in the last ten years. I'm tring to get my license back from the state of NY, but i'm running into problems with these procedures. I was wondering if you might be able to explain them to me a little more, so I could fully understand the situation i'm in.

Unknown said...

Responding to Ryan, you may want to hire a lawyer to take a look at vacating one of your earlier convictions and getting something reduced so that it has fewer or no negative units.

Unknown said...

I have three speeds in 18 months and a DWI over a year ago, and they are denying me even a restricted license pursuant to Part 136.

What can I do, aside from filing Motions to Vacate (I have already been down that route with no success).

I had a clean drivng record for 3 years, then had all my troubles in less than two. Thank you for your time.

Unknown said...

Thanks to rory for helping us advertise why people should hire lawyers to help with their speeding tickets.

David said...

I had my license revoked in 8/2011 for 3 speeding tickets, 2 disobeyed traffic devices and having an accident & leaving the scene while under suspension. No alcohol involved. I was 18/19 and on ADD medication at the time. I had a clean license prior to this and after I told my doctor to take me off the medication. I had taken the Defensive Driving course in 8/2011 and when I reapplied after the obligatory six months, I was denied reinstatement of my license. Is there any valid basis for the DMV to deviate from its general policy as set forth in Part 136 of the regulations?

Unknown said...

I'd have to see the number of negative units. Your description doesn't provide enough information.